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AMD Phenom X4 9850 Black Edition Review
March 26, 2008   Chris Crazipper Angelini > [View My Other Articles]
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Overclocking, Pricing, and System Setup


Overclocking the 9850 Black Edtion


Before we received our Phenom X4 9850 sample, we were made to understand that the new stepping was not intended to stretch the chip’s scalability and that, if anything, it’d be interesting to see how far the processor would overclock.

With that news, we weren’t hoping for much since the furthest our Phenom 9600 Black Edition would go was 2.5 GHz—the stock clock on AMD’s 9850. Nevertheless, we fired up a newer board to our labs, Gigabyte’s MA790FX-DQ6, and started tweaking around with multiplier settings. Conspicuously missing, by the way, was the option disable the TLB patch implemented in Gigabyte’s latest BIOS files.

AMD Phenom X4 9850 Black Edition Review [ We used Gigabyte's MA790FX-DQ6 for testing, perhaps the most feature-laden 790FX board available @ 500 x 418 ] > View Full-Size in another window.
We used Gigabyte's MA790FX-DQ6 for testing, perhaps the most feature-laden 790FX board available


We shot first for 2.7 GHz—a 200 MHz overclock, and exactly what we were able to bilk out of the 9600. The system fired up without a problem and ran through a complete set of benchmarks stably. We added some more voltage, shot for 2.8 GHz and again saw success. From there, 2.9 GHz just wasn’t happening. Even still, a 300 MHz bump is respectable.



Pricing


As mentioned at the start of this piece, AMD and Intel are constantly jockeying for position when it comes to relative performance and pricing. When we looked at the Phenom 9600 Black Edition, the chip was listed at $250 and it underperformed Intel’s similarly priced Core 2 Quad Q6600 based on the Kentsfield core.

Now, the 9600 is being bested by AMD’s new Phenom X4 9750 at a $215 price point. The X4 9850 Black Edition (2.5 GHz) is even less expensive than the 9600 used to be at a $235 price point. If you’re willing to drop down to 2.2 GHz, the door to quad-core is open at under $200 with the 9550.

New CPUs
X3s and X4s
ProcessorSpeedCoresPowerPrice in 1KU
Phenom X4 98502.5 GHz4125W$235
Phenom X4 97502.4 GHz4125W$215
Phenom X4 96502.3 GHz495W
Phenom X4 95502.2 GHz495W$195
Phenom X3 86002.3 GHz395W~$175
Phenom X3 84002.1 GHz395W~$150
Phenom X4 9100e1.8 GHz465W~$200
Note that the X4 9650/9100e and X3 8600/8400 will be OEM-only parts at launch


Suddenly, AMD’s position versus Intel’s comparably-priced chips looks much better. You’ll still find faster chips at the high-end of Intel’s lineup. However, knowing what we know about how the Phenom 9600 performed at 2.3 GHz, enthusiasts in the market between $200 and $300 are going to be much more impressed by a cheaper Phenom at 2.5 GHz.

One last thing—notice in the table above that the X4 9100e, X3 8600, and X3 8400 don’t bear the xx50 suffix. They’re still B2 silicon, so keep that in mind as you plan an upgrade path (or consider an inexpensive home system). It’s worth stepping up to an X4 9550 for less than $200.

System Setup


AMD Phenom 9850 Black Edition (2.5 GHz)
AMD Phenom 9600 Black Edition (2.3 GHz)
AMD Phenom 9500 (2.2 GHz)
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.4 GHz)
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 (3.16 GHz)

Gigabyte MA790FX-DQ6 Motherboard
ASUS P5E-VM HDMI Motherboard

2GB OCZ Technology DDR2-1066 CAS5 Memory (2x1GB)

Gigabyte GV-RX387512H Radeon HD 3870 512MB

Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1TB SATA 3 Gbps Hard Drive

Windows Vista x32, current as of March 13th, 2008 with Windows Update

DirectX 10

Desktop resolution 1600x1200, 32-bit color, 85Hz refresh

We disable Vista’s UAC and generate an image using Norton Ghost 11 to create the same basic benchmark platform for each test bed. The image is frozen with the latest Windows Updates and deployed to each system. The appropriate drivers are then loaded to the machines.

Benchmarks


3DMark06
Unreal Tournament III
Crysis
Lost Planet: Extreme Condition
Half-Life 2: Episode 2
Company of Heroes
Call of Duty 4
PCMark Vantage
Windows Media Encoder


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