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Posted by Brandon Sandman Bell on Thursday July 13, 2006 - 09:00 PM

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» Intel's Core 2 Extreme/Duo Processors

Today's the day media outlets such as us are finally able to unveil all the details on Intel's next-generation Core 2 processors. The new chips are built on Intel's brand new Conroe CPU core, boasting more performance thanks to several improvements. In this article we go over what's changed in the new CPUs, discuss pricing, and evaluate performance. Inside you'll find benchmark numbers for both single-GPU and multi-GPU setups with ATI CrossFire. Do you really need a Core 2 processor to drive two X1900 XTX cards at 2048x1536? Find out in this article! (Hint: You won't want to skip the flight sim benches in this article)

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 Anonymous (-) Jul 19, 2006 - 10:08 am | Edited on Jul 19, 2006 - 10:10 am
» Interesting
Got thrown in the wrong topic...

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Click to view FSgeeK's User Page FSgeeK (531)  Click to view FSgeeK's User Profile Talk to FSgeeK in the Shout! Box Jul 16, 2006 - 07:10 pm
my ques. is when is intel gunna give comp builders te go ahead to release systems with these chips?

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Click to view trikats's User Page trikats (62)  Talk to trikats in the Shout! Box Jul 15, 2006 - 01:36 pm
I just checked out some of the bar graphs and the conclusion. Too bad there wasn't an overclocking page, but I already read several articles on these new Intel Core 2 processors. Atleast my Opteron 165 won't perform that badly in games so I will wait for AMD's or Intel's next big evolution. Hopefully by then DX10 graphic cards and the next gen CPUs will be cheap enough to warrant another computer upgrade.

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Click to view deimos47's User Page deimos47 (434)  Click to view deimos47's User Profile Talk to deimos47 in the Shout! Box Jul 15, 2006 - 12:03 pm
It was 1999. Hot of the heals of their very successful P2 "Deschutes", Intel tried to charm the world with their internet optimized P3. And as fate would have it, Athlon debuted and crashed their party.

7 years (1999-2006) is a very very long time for a microarchitecture to be leading the market. Certainly blew away the wildest expectations. Its quite a shame that just as AMD gets FAB36 up and running, and production silicon from Chartered, Intel crashes in.

But, despite Conroe's clear win, I still think Athlon has room for improvement. Particularly, in the key memory subsystem.
- S754 to S939 doubling of memory bandwidth (and again with AM2) saw minimal performance advantage. Clearly the bandwidth is there, but not being used.
- Conroe has more better and smarter prefetchers. Even using lowly DDR2-667, it beats the AM2 systems, even in typical bandwidth limited tests.
- AMD is at a unique position to leverage their SOI technology towards cache: Z-ram. Its seems ridiculous that in today's day and age, AMD is shifting their lineup to the petty 512KB L2 cache models.

By following in Conroe's footsteps of working smarter and not just harder, if AMD works quickly and diligently, they may be able to make up much of the lost ground.

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Click to view coldpower27's User Page coldpower27 (6)  Click to view coldpower27's User Profile Talk to coldpower27 in the Shout! Box Jul 15, 2006 - 08:55 pm | Edited on Jul 15, 2006 - 08:56 pm
Huh? Leading??!! K7 lost the lead back with the Northwood C's.

Pentium 4 with HT are more responsive for general use so they had thier purposes against Athlon 64's which performed well for gaming.

AMD got the lead finally, with the Athlon 64x2, and then priced it in the stratosphere. :)

Z-RAM has only just been aqcuire in Mid 2006, it will take some time before we see AMD implement it into their processors. We will have to see if it becomes substance rather then hype.

Well the best hope at this point for AMD is K8L, though that isn't coming till Mid 2007 at the earliest and that is optimistic.

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Click to view deimos47's User Page deimos47 (434)  Talk to deimos47 in the Shout! Box Jul 15, 2006 - 10:25 pm
you are right. I should have said "intermitently leading",or better "providing decent competition"

I was merely trying to highlight that AMD is unlikely to abandon their K8 architecture, and that there are still many ways to improve its performance.

As for Intel, I guess Conroe means that desktop/consumer switchover to EPIC ISA is postponed indefinetily.

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Click to view coldpower27's User Page coldpower27 (6)  Click to view coldpower27's User Profile Talk to coldpower27 in the Shout! Box Jul 16, 2006 - 08:51 am
I agree, on the switch to Itanium 2 based products for the desktops, with the rate of development needed to maintain an edge over AMD onx86, EPIC develops way too slowly to allow a transistion.

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Click to view Blood1's User Page Blood1 (31)  Talk to Blood1 in the Shout! Box Jul 15, 2006 - 08:35 am
» FS: Please Add Cost of System Setup!! $$$
Hi FS, could you please add a total COST for the entire system setup you test with from now on?
It would be nice just to see if I want this kind of performance how much it would cost when reading this article.
Thanks and great article. Great to see Intel took top place now. Waiting for AMD's 4x4 response...
tic toc, tic toc....

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