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Posted by Tom YodaBlues Colarusso on Friday January 23, 2009 - 05:04 PM

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» Windows 7 Beta Gaming Performance: XP vs Vista vs 7

Which OS delivers better gaming performance at this point: Windows 7, Vista, or good old Windows XP? Tom answers this question testing all three operating systems out on midrange and high-end systems through 7 different games as well as USB transfer and 3DMark testing. See how they all stack up in this article!

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Click to view FSgeeK's User Page FSgeeK (531)  Click to view FSgeeK's User Profile Talk to FSgeeK in the Shout! Box Jan 26, 2009 - 02:01 pm
Will it still keep soundcards neuterd like vista is what i want to really know.

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Click to view DemBones79's User Page DemBones79 (226)  My XFire username is: dembones79 Click to view DemBones79's User Profile Talk to DemBones79 in the Shout! Box Jan 26, 2009 - 03:11 pm
Most likely, seeing as how that was a result of completely changing the Windows audio stack. As long as positional audio still works, I don't care. Most of the DSP effects (including EAX) are annoying, and in a lot of games I turned them off because they just overprocessed all of the sounds. That and some games even had static due to improper EAX implementations.

To be honest, Creative hasn't made a good product since the Sound Blaster AWE32.

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Click to view FSgeeK's User Page FSgeeK (531)  Talk to FSgeeK in the Shout! Box Jan 28, 2009 - 10:02 am | Edited on Jan 30, 2009 - 05:24 am
I'm mainly talking about listening to music, for games ill use onboard doesnt matter to me. I need a good soundcard that isnt neutered by the os to finally take full advantage of my logitec z5500. i hear ya about creative, they suck. I'm going with the ht omega claro plus+

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Click to view shl0791's User PageI am an AMD Agent shl0791 (547)  Talk to shl0791 in the Shout! Box I am an AMD Agent Jan 25, 2009 - 04:56 pm
check out my boot up and shutdown video on my c2d lenovo! I'm impressed at the times.
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=japPKcIffnw

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Click to view notuptome2004's User Page notuptome2004 (1)  Talk to notuptome2004 in the Shout! Box Jan 24, 2009 - 07:33 pm | Edited on Jan 24, 2009 - 11:13 pm
i been running windows 7 beta and i am impressed with it over what iw as already impressed with vista about. i had no issues with my hardware installing windows 7 and had no issues installing vista graphics drivers for my 8600gts i have ran them and the windows 7 preview drivers and while the vista drivers work and perform the same as under vista the windows 7 drivers have me some gameing boost.



to clear up something for anyone who had not paid close watch on windows 7 and Microsoft but Microsoft already confirmed there would be 1 Beta and 1 RC build before RTM and launch and with all the buzz and new around the net and positive reviews from other users on other forums Microsoft seems to have a firm launch for windows 7 by this summer and Microsoft already confirmed Bea is feature complete so i think by july or august we should see windows 7 out just based on so many reports online and on how good of quality this build is

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Click to view Labotomizer's User Page Labotomizer (989)  Click to view Labotomizer's User Profile Talk to Labotomizer in the Shout! Box Jan 25, 2009 - 10:11 am
I think you're probably right. I have a feeling we'll see 7 before the next school year.

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Click to view HangTime's User Page HangTime (30)  Talk to HangTime in the Shout! Box Jan 24, 2009 - 01:27 pm
One thing I don't get about some of the numbers is that a simple change in resolution (same game/dx version) is changing the running order so drastically.

For example, take a look at the Highend L4D results. This just doesn't make any sense to me. In 1680x1050, Windows 7 is wiping the floor with the opposition, I mean it's nearly an astonishing 20% quicker than the next best, Vista. Yet up the resolution a tad to 1920x1080, and it is left for dead, if you'll excuse the pun. It's over 50fps slower just from a small resolution increase, whereas XP and Vista lose 10fps at the most.

To me those results stick out like a sore thumb and it'd be good to see them get run again. If there was some weird driver issue with that resolution, then I'd have expected to see it in other games too.

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Click to view Yoda_Blues's User PageI am an AMD Agent Yoda_Blues (263)  My XFire username is: yodablues Click to view Yoda_Blues's User Profile Talk to Yoda_Blues in the Shout! Box I am an AMD Agent Jan 24, 2009 - 06:26 pm
I noticed it as well and re-ran the tests because I thought it was skewering the results for some reason. That's actually why it took me a week to do the article, I didn't trust the results I was getting and went back and re-did them.

I suspect its the beta graphical drivers. As you up resolution, you transfer some workload from the CPU to the GPU. Maybe they aren't optimized for the changes to 7 yet. Hard to say, but I think as the beta progresses to RC, we'll see those number edge out more.

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Click to view Labotomizer's User Page Labotomizer (989)  Click to view Labotomizer's User Profile Talk to Labotomizer in the Shout! Box Jan 24, 2009 - 09:52 am
I think the article nails many of the points I think are important about Windows 7.

1) Boot Time vs Ready Time. I think this one is particularly important. XP and Vista can both "boot" and be at the desktop in about the same amount of time as 7. However 7 is ready when it gets there. If you click FF or IE it's already responsive. Even if you have things that start with Windows, it seems to be much better at determining background processes versus what the user is actually interested in launching.

2) Driver maturity. While the latest drivers should work with 7 you can't simply download and install them it seems. So you have to wait for the ones published through MS which almost always favor stability over performance. So we'll probably have to wait to see if it really gains in performance closer to launch.

3) The comment on the new taskbar is spot on. At first it seems odd but after a few days going back to the older versions of Windows seems archaic. The cool thing is the jump lists are capable of pulling Recent file information from any program that supports a recent file list. Even old ones. i.e. I installed Visio 2003 under 7 to do a diagram the other day. You can right click the Visio taskbar icon and it still shows you the jump list of recent drawings despite it being a 6 year old version.

4) Something I feel is beneficial, but all will not agree with me which may be why it wasn't mentioned, are the new Aero features that change Aero from simple eye candy to something truly useful. The new taskbar icons are the surface. Aero Peek, where you can mouse over a running program and see a mini preview, then moust over the mini preview to see the full screen window without minimizing other programs is handy. The Aero show desktop implementation is also handy, although that I think is mostly just eye candy. It's not terribly useful as I don't need to see my desktop unless I'm actually trying to get to something. However, Aero Snap is incredibly useful. Take a window and drag it to the side of the screen and it tiles it to that side at 50% of your screen. Drag another window to the other side and you've got a convenient side-by-side view. Aero Shake is also handy. Grab a window, shake it and everything else minimizes.

5) New resource monitor is on par with Sysinternals process explorer. Very, very useful.

6) Complaints - removal of parental controls kinda sucks, although they hint at it being a free download. Odd power issue on my laptop. On battery during startup or shutdown it will lockup. If it's on AC power it's fine. Once in Windows I can take it off AC power and it's fine as well. Very strange.

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Click to view Yoda_Blues's User PageI am an AMD Agent Yoda_Blues (263)  My XFire username is: yodablues Click to view Yoda_Blues's User Profile Talk to Yoda_Blues in the Shout! Box I am an AMD Agent Jan 24, 2009 - 11:44 am
Thanks for your comments. I was going to mention the mini-preview feature (which I love!) but since it's a performance article, I didn't want to get too bogged down in particulars.

About the parental controls, they will be available in the final version, just part of the free download called Windows Essentials that will also include Movie Maker, Windows Gallery, etc etc.

On your power issues, most likely just a simple bug that will hopefully be ironed out before release. So you have it installed on your laptop? I was thinking of installing it on my netbook just to see how it ran. How's battery life?

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Click to view Labotomizer's User Page Labotomizer (989)  Talk to Labotomizer in the Shout! Box Jan 24, 2009 - 12:02 pm
Battery life is excellent once I switch over. 3.5 hours at work the other day and I still had 20% left. And a side note, it's a Core Duo 1.6 Ghz with 1Gb of memory and an Intel integrated graphics card. It runs Aero without issue and everything is smooth. I'm guessing it's using software DX10 but it runs extremely well. I had 7 FF tabs, Acrobat 9, 2 Putty consoles, Remote desktop, VNC and Media Player going and it was still quick and responsive. It really makes XP seem slow on the lower powered machine.

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