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| | (Post a comment) » 3D Performance with DOOM 3: Part 2 High-End Cards (Cont'd)At the end of last week we checked out the performance of DOOM 3 with the latest 3D graphics cards, today we're evaluating performance with the high-end cards of yesteryear. Included in this article are 9800 PRO 128MB vs. 256MB benchmarks, as well as the RADEON 9700 PRO and RADEON 9800 XT. On the NVIDIA side we've included four cards ranging from the GeForce FX 5900 XT all the way up to the GeForce FX 5950 Ultra. See how all the cards stack up at the various resolutions and eye candy settings right here! |  Previous news article | Back to main news | Next news article  |
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Sirwar at 10:44am 08/12/2004
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Why? Do you plan on upgrading to a last gen CPU? I have no need to
see benches of my last gen system, because if I want to see how it
runs, I can just...run it! But thats exactly the point of benches
of the latest hardware, so you can research what you want to upgrade
to. duh. This latest article is made for a couple reasons. 1.
public demand, since many people have these cards. 2. To answer
questions about how much the newer hardware is better than older,
and what features make a difference. Personally, I'm more
interested in the latter, since I'm not upgrading for a few months
yet, at least.
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Anonymous at 12:20am 08/12/2004
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Go to anandtech.com they show differen't cpu's using a radeon 9800
video card.
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m3d1um at 10:52pm 08/11/2004
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This article establishes that even the basic 6800 is twice as fast
as the previous generation of cards. Those who would choose to
upgrade now will benefit the most from this article, as well as
those who are curious to see how much juice is left their 9800pros
and 5900's.
Maybe we'll see a CPU scaling article, that'd be nice.
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Yoshi (View my Profile) at 12:40am 08/11/2004
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Instead of video card benchmarks with lower end CPU's what you guys
should ask for is benchmarks of lower end CPU's on high end graphics
cards. That way you can see just how much a faster CPU effects
preformance.
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v1m at 08:30pm 08/10/2004
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It's maddening when sites run benchmarks on hardware that almost
nobody owns. Whether this is a kind of pretension or a sop to your
advertisers, it's next to useless for the majority of us. Using an
Athlon 64 chip to benchmark last-gen cards is such a case: those of
us with Radeon 9800s would like to know how the game performs on the
last-gen CPUs that we own, thank you very much.
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Sirwar at 12:48pm 08/10/2004
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Okay, and I want a benchmark of a 2500+ OCed to 3200+, with a
9800Pro OCed to 400mhz core and 350mhz memory.
I'm just saying its not realistic to go around testing arbitrary
combinations of components because 1 persons says "this is what
I'm running".
Hell, at that rate, I want to put together another computer with my
old Voodoo 5 5500 and an Athlon Tbird 1.4. Could FS please run some
benchmarks so I can get some idea how my computer will run Doom 3
with various other CPUs supported in the AMD 760/761 chipset and
that video card.
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bigboyg at 09:53am 08/10/2004
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"I'm not against testing lower-end CPUs/videos, but doing a
full low end system benchmark is useless. Testing a whole
system of mid-low end parts wont tell you anything about
bottlenecks, only that "people with this configuration
will run it like this"."
Well... yeah. That's why I, and I assume many others, read the
article in the first place. To see how it runs. I have a 2.4 p4. I'd
love to have seen benchmarks comparing the same card with a
different CPU. Really, what could you possibly disagree with here?
You want LESS information?
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Sirwar at 09:41am 08/10/2004
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Like I had said, with CPU benchmarks, use the best video cards. On
the contrary to what you said about FX 53s and SLI 6800s, it makes
perfect sense for finding the bottleneck.
If you are testing a 1900+ with a 9600Pro, your severely limited on
BOTH, so you have no idea where the bottleneck is at all. Which, if
you read my post, was the point I was making.
I'm not against testing lower-end CPUs/videos, but doing a full low
end system benchmark is useless. Testing a whole system of mid-low
end parts wont tell you anything about bottlenecks, only that
"people with this configuration will run it like this".
That only applies to a very small portion, rather than bottleneck
tests which can give EVERYONE an idea about what to expect.
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knightspawn1138 at 09:22am 08/10/2004
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All the guy's asking for is a reference point of how much difference
there is between the high and low end CPU's. FS is testing D3 with
lower-end video cards to show us how much difference the video card
makes. I'm sure their next article will be CPU impact.
You're forgetting that there comes a point where any game is CPU
limited or GPU limited. At 320x240, even D3 should become CPU
limited (and kinda grainy!). So, all this guy's asking for is a
little more perspective. If we had tests showing an Athlon XP 1900+
with some of these cards, we would have a good idea of when the CPU
is the bottleneck as well as when the GPU is the bottleneck.
Having a GeForce MX400 with an Athlon FX-53 doesn't make sense, just
like having twin 6800's in SLI mode on an Athlon T-Bred 1000 makes
no sense either! But if those were the only setups tested, could
you pick the winner? Neither of them would beat an Athlon XP 2500+
with a Radeon 9800 Pro because that machine's CPU and GPU are closer
to being on par with each other.
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Sirwar at 08:53am 08/10/2004
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If you want CPU benchmarks...use the best video cards. It makes no
sense to test 2100+ w/Radeon 9700. Useless. You just use your
brain, and estimate where your system would stack up given the CPU
and GPU benches. I'm sorry if your system sucks, but the general
readership of FS has no need for your 'benchmarks of a low-end
system'.
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