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| | (Post a comment) » Computex 2005: ATI CrossFire TechnologyFor months NVIDIAs SLI technology has been the only game in town for users looking to combine two cards together for more performance. But soon that will change, as today ATI is unveiling their SLI equivalent: CrossFire! ATI is taking image quality to the next level with CrossFire, supporting AA levels up to 14x and a new rendering mode used in advanced simulation systems dubbed supertiling. Read all the details in this article! |  Previous news article | Back to main news | Next news article  |
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Anonymous at 07:55am 06/8/2005
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I agree with 23. Both ATI and Nvidia have been boasting "Movie
like visuals" for a long time. Yet with all the rough edges on
the screen it looks nothing like a properly rendered movie.
If the 14x and 16x FSAA can pull off what they say it does, that
will be a hugh increase in visual performance. And since movies
actually play at only 28 FPS, speed really doesn't matter does it?
Still cracks me up that folks want over 100 FPS when their monitor
is only running at 75 or 85 hertz (1 hertz = 1 FPS guys) So
anything faster than your monitor is able to keep up with is wasted.
Thrown out of the pixel window. Useless. I'd rather see increase
in quality over speed any day.
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Anonymous at 07:35am 06/8/2005
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SUPER AA!!!!
Now THAT'S what I'm talking about :)
Jaggies suck!
ATI is the only graphics company that really cares about image
quality. Higher frame rates? Pishah! Quality Quality Quality.
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Anonymous at 03:42am 06/2/2005
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why is ATI calling it crossfire it's a Chrysler car
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Trogdor at 11:56pm 05/31/2005
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All this talk of Crossfire on various motherboards, bickering and
arguing. Since Crossfire uses a compositing chip and communication
is via the drivers and the DVI output, my understanding is that
ATI's solution will work on any motherboard with two physical X16
slots. Of course, the main reason NVIDIA was requiring an SLI
chipset for their SLI solution is that they sell their SLI chipsets
for ~$80 while the nF4 Ultra goes for $40 - this despite the fact
that the chips are identical! I expect to see NVIDIA suddenly
revamp their drivers to no longer require an NVIDIA chipset around
the time Crossfire becomes available.
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As for the FS article: "ATI is also quick to point out that
their CrossFire solution doesn’t require a selector card or jumpers,
unlike NVIDIA SLI." Actually, motherboard manufacturers could
do SLI to non-SLI conversion on the NVIDIA boards as well. It
requires several ICs (Integrated Circuits) in order to do this,
which adds roughly $5 to the board cost, along with requiring BIOS
support.
Knowing how cut-throat the motherboard market is, my bet is that the
jumper solution of DFI only cost around $1 to implement while the
card was more like $3. It never ceases to amaze me to what lengths
companies go to save a couple dollars. Just increase the board
price by $2 and call it good! But that's why I'm an engineer and
not a business analyst. :p
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Yoshi (View my Profile) at 09:53pm 05/31/2005
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Does it matter how many games support NVIDIA SLI? In reality 60
games is more than enough as any game older than two years will run
fine at any res with FSAA 4X. There are probably only 15 games that
really stress out the 6800GT or Ultra.
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Anonymous at 04:46pm 05/31/2005
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#8 SLI doesn't support ATI Chipsets but Crossfire should support SLI
motherboards? That would mean that SLI boards are 100% compatible
and ATI chipset boards are only 50% compatible with multi GPU
technology. Whos gonna win out? IT would just be another win for
Nvidia. Not that this may not be implemented by ATI but would not be
in there best interest, considering they spent all that time and
effort creating a mobo chipset.
#9 AH when did i say that there was bench marks? Did you read the
second paragraph? or the fact that i said that it was '(on paper)'?
I never said 'IT' was better, results said so, i only mentioned it
has promise and by the LOOKs of things is much better, but the
reality remains to be seen. I do not work for ATI but like the
promise of there new crossfire compared to SLI.
#10 I believed it was rushed. SLI does not benefit ALL games, only a
select few (i believe the adds say 60 games?), & not all these
games experience a performance increase of 50% plus, only an even
smaller amount get this performance increase, so for double the
graphics investment you get a small overall performance increase.
Yes the future will provide more compatible games that take full
advantage of this eventually. At least ATIs solution can improve
performance and (THEORETICALLY) provide better quality graphics on
all games
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Anonymous at 02:32pm 05/31/2005
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do u guys reckon it wud be worth me upgrading my 2.7 celeron system
with a 9700pro to a X800?
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Novaesck at 01:03pm 05/31/2005
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As it stands now a lot of people are going to have to buy a new
motherboard for new video cards anyways. I'm stuck here with my AGP
x800 XT. So in my eyes, all video card upgrades will require a new
motherboard.
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Anonymous at 08:21am 05/31/2005
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Yet no one mentioned the pass through cables, they were a pain with
my monster v2... looks like ATI is pulling the same $%#! they did
with programible shaders when they didn't have them they sucked then
when were going to have they were going to be better than nvidia's
now where is that card, maybe this fall? I will support ati once
they decide to make a product based on tech instead of marketing,
not say nvidia is not guilty here by they seem to be try at least.
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Anonymous at 06:58am 05/31/2005
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Eh, just like dual CPU's, by the time you DUMP all the money on this
a single card will be out 6 month's later that can beat your dual
setup... there is no point to this unless you don't have a
girlfriend and/or don't go outside at all.
PC is dying when it comes to games anyway, in a year or 2 FPS's will
be runoff that come to the PC, the only thing PC will be good for is
RTS's which don't need all this crap anyway.
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